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scottbtdmb
04-26-2012, 23:54
OK Brothers,
I am officially coming out of the closet....I am a Lakeland Lover!!! I have come to terms with the fact that I enjoy packing a pipe with Gawith&Hoggarth lakeland blends, firing it up, and pretending that I am walking the streets of Victorian London. There are so many G&H blends out there that I wanted to create a thread for people to discuss the blends they enjoy and perhaps give a brief description for those interested in trying them out. Special thanks to a kind gentleman from another forum for hooking me up with a nice little "Lakeland buffet" this week! Anyhow, here is what I have tried:

G&H Dark Bird's Eye - real nice dark fired tobacco with a little bit of an essence. just a tiny tiny bit floral, but mainly the dark fired tobaccos take center stage and produce cigar like notes

G&H Dark Flake Unscented - Dark Bird's Eye in flake form? I can see some similarities but Dark Flake produces more of a bitter cigar note, almost like a Kinky Friedman cigar. Once again, a very light essence, but nothing that overwhelms the tobacco

G&H Dark Plug - Dark Flake Unscented in plug form? Perhaps, but as alfredobuscatti commented once, the Dark Plug almost appears to have an addition of an Oriental tobacco that compliments that bitter cigar taste that I get from the Flake

G&H Louisiana Flake - Definitely the most unique Va/Per that I have ever tried. The lakeland floral essence is there, a high quality Va is there, a little chocolate topping is there, and if you search real hard, some Perique is there too. I get some really deep, "bass" notes out of this blend that you can't find in any other VaPer. Very pleasant tasting and the pouch aroma is a wonderful baker's chocolate.

G&H Balkan Mixture - Having smoked Balkan Sobranie several times, I can honestly say this blend comes closer to the original than any other. I enjoy Blackhouse, Blue Mountain, Macedonian Mixture, and all the rest of the replica attempts, but there is something about Balkan Mixture that reminds me so much of Sobranie every time I smoke it. It is full bodied, has a bit of nicotine, and even has the tiniest bit of Lakeland essence that disappears after the second light.

G&H Coniston Cut Plug - This blend is what you graduate to after you have become to addicted to the smaller amounts of floral essence in some of G&H's lighter blends. There is a WHOLE lot of floral in here, but for some reason I can't stop smoking the stuff. There is also a sweet taste that must be tonquin and probably several other toppings that all meld together into Lakeland goodness.

G&H Broken Flake No. 7 - I have just started smoking this blend from a sample provided from a member of another forum I frequent. Basically, this one is Coniston Cut Plug's little brother. It has the same tobacco components, but their ratios are reversed so that the overall strength of the mixture is much milder. There is also a honeydew topping that adds a sweet, warm cake batter like taste. I am really loving this one and will probably get a pound before long

Other blends that I will be trying from the sample I received during the next few days include Bosun Cut Plug (just started smoking a bowl now), Glengarry Flake, 1792 from SG, Bob's Chocolate Flake, Kendal Mayor Chocolate Flake from SG, and Curly Cut Deluxe. So how about it guys.....what Lakelands do you like and why?

-Scott

Bob
04-27-2012, 00:02
1792 because....... Well because it is good!! :)


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mike68
04-27-2012, 00:08
Thank you for this thread! What, exactly, constitutes a Lakeland?

Jesla
04-27-2012, 00:20
Don't forget SG Grousemoore......yummy stuff.....

scottbtdmb
04-27-2012, 00:46
"Lakeland" tobaccos traditionally are made by two blending houses, Samuel Gawith and Gawith&Hoggarth. The word "Lakeland" refers to the area of Kendal, located in South Lakeland district of Northwest England. Many of these tobaccos have been made since the 18th and 19th centuries and most (but not all) are topped with such essences as tonquin, gernaium, rose, and lavender. Many people associate a "Lakeland mixture" with a strong floral essence, some even call it "soapy" or "old lady perfume". It is certainly an acquired taste, but I find that the base leaf used, often dark-fired Kentucky or fire-cured Virginias, are some of the highest quality tobaccos I have ever smoked. The "floral" toppings used generally compliment the tobaccos very well in my opinion and many of the mixtures offer a high quality, complex, full-bodied, stout smoke. Finally, as quite a few Lakeland blends utilize the dark fired tobaccos, there is generally a high level of nicotine in many of the mixtures. The mixtures I mentioned in my first post are only a drop in the water, as there are dozens of blends made by each company. If you want to try some, I would recommend checking out www.tobaccoreviews.com and looking up Gawith&Hoggarth. While numerous online retailers carry these mixtures, I find that www.marscigars.com carry the best variety. Hope this helps answer your question. I am sure more people on here will chime in with additional information and reviews.

-Scott

Markw4mms
04-27-2012, 01:53
G7H Dark Plug, SG 1792, and Grousemoor are the ones I like.

mike68
04-27-2012, 02:45
Thanks Scott! Tremendously helpful explanation..

Old Ted
04-27-2012, 12:56
In my opinion - Samuel Gawiths tobaccos have the edge, although I do smoke G&H too, and have done for around fifty years!.....(mainly SG plugs):)
OT

Old Ted
04-27-2012, 13:04
The plugs and twists can take a little getting used to - but well worth the effort!http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff380/oldted1/_SAM0001.jpg

psquared
04-27-2012, 14:23
OT, that is a beautiful meer sir. And thanks Scott for a very informative thread. Will be taking notes.

AndyLowry
04-27-2012, 16:17
I'm with you. Will I get a membership card and badge?
I have more Ennerdale socked away than anything else, followed by Scotch Flake Aromatic, Grousemoor (mostly plug), 1792, and Dark Flake Scented. There'd be a lot of Condor if I could get it, but I was born in the wrong country.

Old Ted
04-27-2012, 17:16
.... There'd be a lot of Condor if I could get it, but I was born in the wrong country.....no! no!...it's foul stuff! - they even sell it in supermarkets here, to be rid of it!
OT

mike68
04-27-2012, 22:16
....no! no!...it's foul stuff! - they even sell it in supermarkets here, to be rid of it!
OT

Funny you say this...I work with a transplanted Welshman here in Florida whom I ran into at the market one evening, he was amused that HE was buying the Miller Lite beer and I was the one with the 12-pack of Newky Browns in my cart!

Old Ted
04-27-2012, 22:34
Funny you say this...I work with a transplanted Welshman here in Florida whom I ran into at the market one evening, he was amused that HE was buying the Miller Lite beer and I was the one with the 12-pack of Newky Browns in my cart!

I do actually love Condor (smoked it since Victoria was on the throne) - I just like to tease a little, as it's so easy to get here!. But in the same manner - I'm quite partial to Carter Hall, I use it as a 'mixer', as well as on it's own, but have to ration myself, as it is got in occasional trades.
OT

mike68
04-27-2012, 23:30
Scott - would LOVE to hear more about that Bosun Cut if you are so inclined! That one intrigued me when I started researching..

scottbtdmb
04-28-2012, 03:31
Scott - would LOVE to hear more about that Bosun Cut if you are so inclined! That one intrigued me when I started researching..

Hey Mike,

Give me a few days to smoke a few bowls of it. I recently received the Bosun Cut Plug as part of a sampler from a buddy, so it is still relatively new. So far, I can tell you that I get much of the same floral topping as I get from Coniston Cut Plug. Stay tuned and I will update in a few days with my thoughts on this mixture and several others that I am going to try this weekend,

-Scott

DHunter138
04-28-2012, 17:24
I haven't tried too many of them, but I was particularly fond of G&H Rum Flake. It was my first experience with the "old lady perfume" and it was a bit shocking at first, but soon became one of my favorites.
completely different flavors present themselves when exhaled through the nose rather than the mouth.

T-Bear
04-28-2012, 19:10
Bosun Cut Plug
Coniston Cut Plug
1792
Dark Flake Scented
Condor Long Cut
St. Bruno Flake
Erinmore Flake
Erinmore Cube Cut (production ended in '72)

Some of these are not "Lakeland" in the strictest sense...not from the Lakeland District...but they carry much of the signature floral scent and flavor associated with these blends....so "Lakeland" in the broader sense.

While these have been getting harder to acquire in the States...some near impossible...I smoke them on a fairly regular basis...current cellar allowing.

mike68
04-28-2012, 23:31
Hey Mike,

Give me a few days to smoke a few bowls of it.

-Scott

Not trying to rush my friend! Just hoping to get your input when you get a chance..looking forward to it!

EMorse
04-29-2012, 04:41
Include me in the Lakeland Club - I've tried Condor and like it same with 1792. I haven't tried Ennerdale but will at some point. This style of tobacco has been around for a very long time and there is a reason - it is excellent!

scottbtdmb
05-06-2012, 15:58
Not trying to rush my friend! Just hoping to get your input when you get a chance..looking forward to it!

Mike and any others interested. I finally finished my small sample bag of Bosun Cut Plug. To my tastes, it is quite similar to Gawith&Hoggarth's Coniston Cut Plug. The same floral essence dominates both blends, although Bosun has some clove in it as well, which may be the only distinguishing taste that I detect. Both blends are comprised of dark-fired tobaccos (Va's and Burleys), which seem to compliment the Lakeland scent very nicely. Finally, both blends have about the same nic kick, which is a very nice one at that! Mike, if you are looking to try a Lakeland blend, I would suggest starting with something more lightly scented than both of the aforementioned blends. Might I recommend Gawith&Hoggarth's Broken Flake No. 7, which is usually available at Mars Cigars. It uses the same tobaccos as Coniston and Bosun, but they are used in the exact opposite ratio, which produces a milder smoke. The Lakeland essence is also very tame in Broken Flake, so it will give you a nice introduction as to what the "Lakeland scent" is, but it won't overpower your palette. If you like the Broken Flake No. 7 and specifically if you find that you enjoy the Lakeland scent, then I would recommend moving on to Coniston or Bosun. Hope this helps and if you decide to purchase some of these fine blends, please be sure to report back to us on how you like them!

-Scott

mike68
06-05-2012, 20:29
Scott - Just caught back up to this thread, finally had the chance to try some G&H #7 Kendal and some Condor long flake. The lighter #7 was more appealing as an all day but that Condor was just a really awesome taste grenade! I won't be doing that one every day but can see myself easily falling for full-on Lakelands as normal rotation tobys.

One question I have, do you have a certain shape/type of pipe that you find works best with Lakelands? I have certain pipes that I know are better flake pipes but was wondering if there's any advice there!? Lemme know!

Archer
06-05-2012, 20:36
Does M79 count for this...lol!!! Condor grows on you over time...hated it at first...smelled like cheeseburger and onions with grandmas arse...but now its very nice stuff...

psquared
06-05-2012, 21:02
...smelled like cheeseburger and onions with grandmas arse...

Hey! I like cheeseburger and onions! Wait....what?

mike68
06-05-2012, 22:38
No frame of reference so I'll have to take your word for it..=-O

Archer
06-05-2012, 22:43
No frame of reference so I'll have to take your word for it..=-O

If you ever were a nurses aide you have one...BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

mike68
06-06-2012, 02:34
True dat brother!