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    I can't post my answer, i will try to another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid.Stavros View Post
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    Here are 2 videos for "How to make a Kompoloi", the first is mine:

    https://youtu.be/sB6LHqvlJMQ



    and the second from a girl which speaks english, i think she grew up in America in a Greek family:

    https://youtu.be/O21d8Sc2Ozk



    It's not prohibited for a non-Greek to have a Kompoloi, the souvenir-shops shell them in tourists for this cause but when he plays with it must respect to some rules [No inside a church, a cemetery, a library etc] because this will attract negative attention and for sure Not inside a court house!
    A short-light Kompoloi is for swirling and rubbing the beads and a heavier-longer is for rubbing the beads only [there are some very small and very light Kompoloi with round metal beads but those are for people which want to play it for short time and sometimes in a plain sight without attracted attention from the noise of it].
    The beads must be all from the same material and the same size, no matter if they are from an expensive material or cheap. Multicolour beads and beads that they have different shape and size is a Disgrace and an Insult for the traditional item. If someone tries to play with a Kompoloi like this all his friends will start making irony comments and slander him and the surround people will start laughing and pointing the guy with the finger index making insulting comments each other for him.
    You can buy a Kompoloi "as is" or you can make one with your own hands, buying a very expensive Kompoloi shows nothing that you had that day lot of money in your wallet for the purchase, having a Kompoloi which you choose the colour-shape-size-material of the beads shows that you are an "Artist" and then the Kompoloi shows many things for you.
    An Elder which don't care so much for his appearance and has a small pension will may have 1-2 Kompoloi usually in yellow colour and "as is", a younger people which has some talent inside him will go to the market and buy the materials by his own rules and make it "custom" which means will make it in a specific length. This guy will show Respect for this item, will keep it clean and he will never borrow it to another, he will have a small case with all his Kompoloi collection and according to the circumstance will chose which will take with him. For that guy the Kompoloi shows many things about his character, thing for example who will carry with him a Swiss pocket knife, who a tactical knife and who an expensive survival knife? 3 knives, 3 different style of people.
    A guy with a golden fancy watch and an expensive Kompoloi which swirling it in front of the people is nothing more than an idiot which makes "show-off" with his fathers money. A guy with a custom Kompoloi which rub the beads and transfer them calmly from one side to another while watching the sea is someone which that moments is thinking, his mind travels away "Oh, that travel with ship in America whe i was a kid...did i act properly in that incident last week...should i buy a new motorcycle or to save the money for my house future repairs" etc.
    Few decades back the prisoners or the very poor people were making Kompoloi from Olive puddles but now everyone has 2 euro to buy an acrylic Kompoloi. A tassel will make it look beautiful and will look charmy in your hands, it's a kind of jewel, a part of you which gives you help and pleasure every time you touch it.
    Kompoloi has nothing to do with praying, the sound of the beads keep you awake making your mind to forget the everyday problems and let it choose the right thing for the future
    There are big and heavy Kompoloi but these are for tables or for the wall of the house, it's for decoration only.
    Women with a Men-like style holding a cigar in one hand and a Kompoloi swirling it awkwardly are nothing more that silly women which copy what they see in TV or in "feminist" articles on the web.
    As a Man you hold or play the Kompoloi with your "good hand" and if that drops down you must pick it up in a fraction of a second saying to yourself something like the english: "my oh my...go to Hell" etc because many of the surround people will watch you. You must sweep it-blow air on it [supposedly this removes the dust and cleans it from the Disgrace] and pay attention to not happen again because you already have been embarrassed once!
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    Mr. Stavros....

    Thank you for all the information, videos, and friendly suggestions. Reading through all of the above explanations, and trying to understand the "secrets" and customs of owning and using a Kompoloi is truly fascinating. The hidden meanings behind how the Kompoloi is used, bead size, selection of bead material, decoration(s, tassels,)....all the who, what, where, when, why, and how... so very interesting, especially reading about the respect and reverence that one must have for the Kompoloi.

    Since my last postings, I have been watching some videos, and sourcing some exotic-wood dowels, (round rods) for turning into some beads. I could easily buy Kompoloi on eBay, but I think I would like to make/turn some beads from either Rosewood/Ebony/Olive, buffalo horn, or from some vintage Bakelite rods that I have in the shop. I like to make things, instead of buying them....it's more fun to do it yourself. I might even buy some cheap, briar blocks, cut/turn some 12 mm X 15 mm beads, and rusticate the surface.... for a better "feel" when rubbing the beads. The possibilities seem endless, although you note that the clicking of the beads will help one to become distracted from Life's problems and vexations. Maybe beads cut from harder-than-wood material are a better choice for making clicking and clacking sounds as the beads are worked.

    Again, many thanks for the in-depth explanations regarding the customs and usage of Kompoloi, and for the video links.

    Frank
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    Is there any significance to the colour of the bead?
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    If you like your Kompoloi heavy you can use metallic beads or any other material you want, this Kompoloi will be best for transer the beads from one side to another or let them drop one by one while thinking.
    If you want to swirl it gently you can use lighter material as wood or acrylic, it's all up to you preferences. The colour also "it's up to you" ,for example i never-ever use red beads in my Kompoloi or pink [for obvious reasons] and i make all my Kompoli "balanced" which means i don't make the tassel side to heavy adding something like the girl did or rings because the swirling would be unbalanced. I guy with long fingers will make a Kompoloi with 13-15...21 beads, a guy with short fingers would use a 9-11-13 number of beads, everything it's personal.
    Back in the Old days you could see Elders with the Kompoloi in their forearm like others holding their umbrella, was their personal item, their jewel.
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    S. Stavros....

    Thanks for the new information. I have just a few more questions:

    What is the best "string" material?....chain, nylon, synthetic fiber, hemp, cord....? That cord holding the beads flexes through many, many, cycles as the beads are worked, and I can envision the beads flying all over the floor as the "string" suddenly breaks. That's not a good thing.

    Modern synthetics are so much stronger than natural fibers. The videos show the cord-ends being melted for easier stringing of the beads, so I'm guessing the beads are being strung on a cord made from synthetic fibers.

    Just curious. Many thanks, again.


    Frank
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    My dear friend the Cord is the best that's why all the Kompoloi shops selling it, you can choose thin or thicker depending on the hole of the beads. A good cord will last many years without a problem if you show care about your Kompoloi.
    No matter if you are swirling it or move the beads from one side to another won't be cut and if you use glue in the connection cor-cup-tassel the cord will stay as is forever. If you abuse the Kompoloi no matter if you put cahin or leather there will be damage, i know guys that cut their Kompoloi even when i make for them with twine of fishing line! It'a all their fault not the Kompoloi.

    http://kompoloi.org/products-page/ex...-gia-kompoloi/

    https://xantropolis.gr/browse.php?subcategory=96

    https://www.dioni-art.gr/index.php?o...ategory_id=389

    Few examples, it's cheap and reliable.
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    Mr. Stavros:

    Perfect! Thanks for all your kind patience, for all the detailed answers, and all the links and videos.

    Making some Kompoloi beads....will happen in my very near future.


    Efharisto para poli

    Frank
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