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    Tolkien at the Tobacconist's (1929)

    No,
    it's not this viddy,
    but an audio recording link down below...


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    ...now then,
    the interesting audio is over at the British Library,
    here:

    http://sounds.bl.uk/Arts-literature-...11556xx-0200v0

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    ...and later,
    here he is in 1972 buying eight tins of Capstan.

    Like a true pipeman, he bought his baccy by the pound!


    That receipt sold at auction by Bonhams in 2012 and fetched $1,767.

    Original auction
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    http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/2013...gth=10&page=22


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    If you hadn't pointed out that this recording was made in 1929, I would have sworn it was of a later date. He thought so highly of tobacco that this is "Lesson 20". Lol. Thanks for sharing.

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    Hello,

    If you get to the end of that short Youtube clip, there's a link to the whole half-hour documentary it is taken from, BBC, Writes in their own words. I'm not very interested in fiction, but I loved watching the documentary, if only for the wonderful British accents spoken in it. For me Tolkien speaking is difficult to understand at times, and the others may seem to sound like old fashioned received pronunciation, but I love hearing that and comparing it to modern speech.

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    Very interesting. I don't think that I've ever heard his voice before. He certainly would have made a great tobacconist!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus1970 View Post
    Hello,

    If you get to the end of that short Youtube clip, there's a link to the whole half-hour documentary it is taken from, BBC, Writes in their own words. I'm not very interested in fiction, but I loved watching the documentary, if only for the wonderful British accents spoken in it. For me Tolkien speaking is difficult to understand at times, and the others may seem to sound like old fashioned received pronunciation, but I love hearing that and comparing it to modern speech.

    Best wishes
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    Hello Markus,

    I also have difficulty at times understanding and must listen closely.

    Here's an interesting excerpt from
    Tolkien: A Critical Assessment
    By B. Rosebury:



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    ...and,
    here's a quite interesting radio program from the BBC:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b012zy1c

    Using a wealth of archive, we hear how the drive to hide linguistic, geographical roots often went hand in hand with a desire to be seen as part of the metropolitan set. The fear of being labelled as provincial, unfashionable or rustic would develop into "RP" - Received Pronunciation.

    With access to archives of soldiers during the First World War, Melvyn discusses the rarity of hearing different accents at the time. He points out that RP was the 'non' site-specific accent of the officer class while everyone else was identified by their regional accents.


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    Troy, that video was great. Never seen that before.

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    The BBC Channel 4 radio program is most excellent too, I listened to (most of) the entire broadcast earlier and plan on revisiting for another listen...

    ...they included a snip from a poet named Tom Leonard reading his excellent poem regarding RP accent'd news broadcasters,
    called appropriately enough,
    6 o'clock news.

    Found it on the yootoob too!

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    That radio 4 broadcast by Melvyn Bragg was fascinating Troy, even for me. Anybody remotely interested in the ways & whys of how we talk in this country should listen in.

    "It is impossible for an Englishman to open his mouth without making some other Englishman hate or despise him". George Bernard shaw said this over 100 years ago, still true today! LOL. Another great post Troy, thankyou!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon G View Post
    That radio 4 broadcast by Melvyn Bragg was fascinating Troy, even for me. Anybody remotely interested in the ways & whys of how we talk in this country should listen in.

    "It is impossible for an Englishman to open his mouth without making some other Englishman hate or despise him". George Bernard shaw said this over 100 years ago, still true today! LOL. Another great post Troy, thankyou!
    No doubt, I enjoyed the hell outta lissen'n to it.

    The GBShaw quote is funny!

    I continue to be amazed and fascinated with language, and the differences between the written word and the spoken voice is always interesting...

    ...I can read and comprehend Swedish fairly well but cain't speak it worth a skit, I tried watching alotta Swedish movies and they speak so fast that I can barely understand and most of the time I didn't with eyes flashing down to subtitles trying to piece it all together --- in essence, the written and the spoken are two entirely different beasts!

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