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    Trying to date this one

    Lookin' for help on this one. A nice ebay pickup from a couple years ago. Deeply colored meerschaum with an amber stem. Stem has been repaired and smokes well. Bone screw connector. Case lists W.H.Newman Pipemaker, London, Birmingham, Manchester.

    Questions: about when would this have been made? Would it have been "oxblood" dyed when new or is the color likely from years of smoking? Would you replace the stem? It smokes great as is, but i worry about the previous break and i am loathe to put a pipecleaner though it.

    Any help is appreciated. Thx.

    Stewart

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    Stewart, is that a Sterling band on the pipe? It looks like one in the second picture.

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    Five different Hallmarks registered for W.H.Newman, dating from 1889-1903,

    http://www.silvercollection.it/DICTI...ACCONISTW.html

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    No band on the pipe at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewaru View Post
    No band on the pipe at all.
    Hmm, given the style of the pipe and it's stem, it wouldn't surprise me if it were from the period 1890-1915. The dates for the registered Hallmark's certainly give a rough time frame for W. H. Newman...

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    I agree with Dave on the dating and you could have the stem replaced but, it have to be with an acrylic amber colored stem seeing real amber nowadays is so hard to come by specially in that length.
    But, I would definitely keep the original stem. And if done by the right restorer the original may be saved even, by inserting a stainless steel tube into the air hole were the break is and then reshape the area behind the button were it's been worn and sand and polish the whole stem. As said before, if it's done by the right restorer you'd not even see the break very much and it would be sturdier at the break point. If it was mine that's what I would do anyway. It might be more work then the value of the pipe but, when I like something that's what I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RP McMurphy View Post
    I agree with Dave on the dating and you could have the stem replaced but, it have to be with an acrylic amber colored stem seeing real amber nowadays is so hard to come by specially in that length.
    But, I would definitely keep the original stem. And if done by the right restorer the original may be saved even, by inserting a stainless steel tube into the air hole were the break is and then reshape the area behind the button were it's been worn and sand and polish the whole stem. As said before, if it's done by the right restorer you'd not even see the break very much and it would be sturdier at the break point. If it was mine that's what I would do anyway. It might be more work then the value of the pipe but, when I like something that's what I do.
    Any recommendation for a restorer with whom to have a conversation on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewaru View Post
    Any recommendation for a restorer with whom to have a conversation on this?
    Stewart, you are in the US, yes? You might want to give Tim West a call, and offer to email some pictures.

    http://www.jhlowe.com/tobacco_pipe_repairs.htm

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    Another thought, you may also want to talk to George Dibos (PSPR&R). George does excellent stem work, he's one of the best around.

    http://pipesmokerunlimited.com/membe...039-PSPR-amp-R

    Some of George's work can be seen in these threads,

    http://pipesmokerunlimited.com/searc...earchid=585566

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    I'd agree that it probably dates to the beginning of the 20th. century...

    Lovely "LC" shape, by the way!
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